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  I appreciate "our" free speech.

  by The Rebel in

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  i had given serious consideration too leaving the board.

  i rationalised my views on " muslims" we're not held by the majority so i should leave.

  but this would have been wrong thinking, instead i should appreciate the platform i was given to debate with free speech.

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  Bungi Bill

  Nancy Drew,

  
  

  After finally breaking away from the JWs, I went through a period (which lasted for quite a number of years) in which " if I felt it, I said it " - and in no uncertain terms! ( e.g. liberally using all the "F" and "B" Words anywhere and at any time, making rude gestures at other drivers when they either did something wrong or otherwise just annoyed me, etc. etc. etc.).

  At the time, I thought that this was being therapeutic; i.e. a way of releasing frustration after having been repressed for too long. Now I am more inclined to believe it was part of the process of learning. Learning how to "hit the happy medium" in dealing with the real world (rather than a make believe world).

  These days, I try to state my opinions in a respectful manner, particularly when disagreeing with another.

  One definition of the art of diplomacy reads as follows:

  The ability to tell someone to "Go To Hell" in such a manner that they actually look forward to the journey!

  This is the knack that I am working on!
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  God of the Old Testament

  by unsure in

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  to those on these forums who are christian and or to those who believe in the god of the old testament; how does one overcome many of the questionable actions god took or allowed to happen in the old testament?.

  many if not most of us have heard of criticisms of the god of the old testament.

  you can find these criticisms on many websites.. how do you explain to an honest hearted person why god acted the way they did?.

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  How do you explain to an honest hearted person why God acted the way they did?
  

  I have never seen it satisfactorily explained; furthermore, I don't I expect I ever will, either!
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  Disfellowshipped Brother Gives Public Talk in Kingdom Hall

  by The Searcher in

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  absolutely beautiful!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vbmfx4isku.

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  I have has nightmares about doing similar!
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  Terrorist attack in Brighton Victoria Australia

  by barry in

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  a terrorist has shot a man and held a women captive.

  after a number of explosions police attended and a gunfight resulted in the terrorist being shot dead the women was not harmed and two officers were shot with slight injuries.

  the gunman yacqub khayre was on a terror watch list and isis has claimed responsibility.. stay safe everyone especially during ramadan the killing month.

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  Stay safe - like maybe Macquarie Island?
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  Is there any evidence that the WTS stated the 20th century would be the last?

  by TTWSYF in

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  i know that other early dates are well documented leading up to 1975. it did seemed that the wts learned to stop setting dates, but i seem to recall talk about the 20th century will certainly be the last according to god's perfect timing.

  i can't recall specifically where i heard such blatant rhetoric though.. anyone?

  bueller?

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  Bungi Bill

  nonjwspouse

  For many decades, Awake carried a statement on its inside cover to the effect that "The Generation that was old enough to understand the beginning of the Time of The End in 1914 would still be around to see the End of the System". (It wasn't quite worded exactly like that - my memory is no longer that good!- but that was the substance of the message they put over).

  Then ....... after a certain year, which in the Gregorian Calendar is numbered AD 1975, that statement was modified - just a little!

  It now read to the effect that "The Generation that saw the beginning of the Time of the End would still be around to see its end".

  I understand that this statement was again modified in the mid-1990s, although others will have to tell us exactly how, as I had parted company with them by that time.

  Other than that, I am not aware of any 20th Century type remarks in Awake that were subsequently reprinted.
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  Greenlees & Chitty -- Some Sources

  by AlanF in

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  posted on an email message board:.

  posted on an email message board:.

  posted recently to the h2o message board:.

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  Bungi Bill

  Ewart Chitty - born c. 1898, died about 1993, must have lived into his mid-nineties.

  As a popular song has it - Only the Good Die Young !
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  Is there any evidence that the WTS stated the 20th century would be the last?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i know that other early dates are well documented leading up to 1975. it did seemed that the wts learned to stop setting dates, but i seem to recall talk about the 20th century will certainly be the last according to god's perfect timing.

  i can't recall specifically where i heard such blatant rhetoric though.. anyone?

  bueller?

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  Bungi Bill

  As late as 1989, the WTS was still claiming that the end would happen before before the close of the 20th Century

  - see The Watchtower, January 1, 1989, page 12, paragraph 8.

  Typically, though, the reprint of that issue of The Watchtower (i.e. in the "Bound Volumes") edited out all references to the "20th Century" and instead substituted "Our Time" in its place.
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  Rutherford though his booklets were better than the Bible

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  this appeared in the 1932 booklet "where are the dead"..

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  The story I used to hear bandied around was that "The Watchtower is more important than The Bible" - as Christendom has "Had the Bible for Centuries" yet it has done them "No Good".

  Put yourself above The Bible, and the rest just follows naturally (such as all the rules, regulations and defacto Tulmud that the WTS/GB impose on their R&F).
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  Breaking News, London: Van Ploughs into Pedestrians

  by Simon in

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  3 male passengers then get out and start stabbing / shooting people according to early reports.. but it could have been anyone for any reason, who knows, possibly jehovahs witnesses or amish.. maybe we'll never know the reason but i'm sure there will be people praying for those involved and hashtags.. thus solving the problem once and for all.. just "life in a big city" according to the muslim mayor of london, sadiq khan..

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  Simon,

  OK - understood. Such situations are practically war in everything but name, and there are definitely precedents for using preemptive lethal force.
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  What Kind of Activism?

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  activism or any kind of push back really is not about the size of your emotion, your disgust, or the feeling of powerless frustration at the religion.being an ex-jw is about one of two things and two things only:1. being effective.

  2. being ineffectiveto which i add: effective at what?1.

  not identifying yourself as the foaming at the mouth, demonic, mentally diseased piece of shit the watchtower has framed you out to be in the minds of their captive slaves.2.

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  Bungi Bill

  Terry,

  
  

  From a personal satisfaction point of view, having a rant and blowing off some steam does have certain benefits. But then if you are intending to help others wake up to TTATT, then what you said was very correct.